Incident brief
Indeterminate collation
When PostgreSQL cannot derive a collation for a string operation, it raises this error and hints to add an explicit COLLATE clause.
In 10 seconds
- What
- Indeterminate collation
- What triggers it
- Perform a string comparison where no collation can be derived from the inputs.
- The fix
- Add an explicit COLLATE clause to set the collation for the operation.
- Proof
- Reproduced on PostgreSQL 18.4 → A single query reproduces SQLSTATE 42P22; without a derivable collation the comparison is rejected with a hint.
The fix
What to do right now
The immediate, application-level response to this error.
- Add an explicit COLLATE clause to set the collation for the operation.
- Apply the same collation to both operands so the comparison is well-defined.
-- Set the collation explicitly with COLLATE.
SELECT (label COLLATE "C") < (note COLLATE "C") FROM coll_demo2;Diagnose
See it live on the server
Run these against the affected instance to confirm the diagnosis before you act.
Standard triage — not specific to this error
These are canonical PostgreSQL system-catalog queries, shown as SQL to run. No sample output is attached because this is general triage, not a captured lab transcript.This SQLSTATE does not have an error-specific live snapshot yet. These are the canonical system-catalog queries you run against the affected server to see the problem in real time — standard triage, not a reproduced transcript.
What is running right now
Active backends, how long each has been running, and what it is waiting on.
SELECT pid,
state,
wait_event_type,
wait_event,
now() - query_start AS running_for,
left(query, 80) AS query
FROM pg_stat_activity
WHERE state <> 'idle'
AND pid <> pg_backend_pid()
ORDER BY running_for DESC NULLS LAST;Who is blocking whom
Turn raw blocking PIDs into the actual queries on both sides of the wait.
SELECT blocked.pid AS blocked_pid,
blocked.query AS blocked_query,
blocking.pid AS blocking_pid,
blocking.query AS blocking_query
FROM pg_stat_activity AS blocked
JOIN LATERAL unnest(pg_blocking_pids(blocked.pid)) AS b(pid) ON true
JOIN pg_stat_activity AS blocking ON blocking.pid = b.pid
WHERE cardinality(pg_blocking_pids(blocked.pid)) > 0;Locks that are still waiting
Every lock a backend has requested but not yet been granted.
SELECT l.pid,
l.locktype,
l.mode,
l.granted,
COALESCE(c.relname, l.transactionid::text) AS object
FROM pg_locks l
LEFT JOIN pg_class c ON c.oid = l.relation
WHERE NOT l.granted
ORDER BY l.pid;Why it happens
What PostgreSQL is telling you
The mechanism behind the error, grounded in the official manual — not paraphrased.
PostgreSQL 18 Documentation — Appendix A. PostgreSQL Error Codes (Table A.1, Class 42 — Syntax Error or Access Rule Violation)
42P22 → indeterminate_collationRead the full section on postgresql.org →
Comparing with no derivable collation
PostgreSQL could not choose a collation for the comparison, so it raises 'could not determine which collation to use' and hints to use COLLATE.The session continues normally
The failing statement ran outside a transaction block, so nothing was left in a bad state — the next statement in the same connection runs normally.Reproduce & verify
A real, single-session PostgreSQL reproduction
A literal transcript of SQL run against a live PostgreSQL instance in an isolated lab — the commands below are exactly what was executed.
- 1Perform a string comparison where no collation can be derived from the inputs.
- 2PostgreSQL fails to pick a collation for the operation.
- 3The statement aborts with SQLSTATE 42P22 and a hint to use COLLATE.
A comparison over expressions with unresolvable collations failed until an explicit COLLATE was supplied.
CREATE TABLE coll_demo2(label text COLLATE "C", note text COLLATE "POSIX");
INSERT INTO coll_demo2 VALUES ('a','b');SELECT label < note FROM coll_demo2;SELECT 'ok' AS session_after_error;What PostgreSQL actually returned
CREATE TABLE
INSERT 0 1ERROR: could not determine which collation to use for string comparison
HINT: Use the COLLATE clause to set the collation explicitly. session_after_error
---------------------
ok
(1 row)The comparison succeeds once an explicit COLLATE resolves the collation.
We add COLLATE to both sides to give the comparison a definite collation.
Without this
Before: the collation is indeterminate
With this, tested
After: COLLATE makes it definite
What Pro unlocks here
- The exact prevention SQL — copy-paste ready
- Raw psql output captured from the Docker lab
- A senior-DBA action list to take it further
- Live monitoring queries to catch it in production
- The deeper audit: fix-that-fails counterexample, GUC before/after, server-log evidence
Related & next steps
Follow the thread
Everything this error touches — jump straight to the sibling error, term, runbook, or parameter.
Verification
- Last verified
- 2026-07-24 (isolated lab, PostgreSQL 18.4)
- Reviewed by
- Verified against PostgreSQL 18.4 in an isolated lab environment
- Audit status
- reviewed